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Robert Beke1,2

M, #5506, Deceased, d. 1346
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Parents

FatherRobert De Draycote Beke (d. after 4 March 1329)
MotherElizabeth Unknown

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BirthRobert Beke was born Person Source, Y.3
MarriageRobert Beke and Mariota Unknown were married.1
User Reference NumberHe; 19227
His wife Mariota Unknown died.
BirthHe was born about 1297.1
His father Robert De Draycote Beke died after 4 March 1329.
DeathRobert Beke died in 1346.1

Citations

  1. [S1016] According to Otto Hirzell
  2. [S1023] The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580
  3. [S1024] Brereton History

Ann Fennah

F, #5507, Deceased, b. 1816, d. 1901
ConsanguinityPartner of Samuel Bentley (1st cousin 4 times removed of Adrian John Snelson)
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Family: Samuel Bentley (b. 1813, d. 1884)

SonJoseph Bentley+ (b. 1853, d. 1933)

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MarriageAnn Fennah and Samuel Bentley were married.
User Reference NumberShe; 24374
BirthShe was born in 1816.
Her son Joseph Bentley was born in 1853.
Her husband Samuel Bentley died in 1884.
DeathShe died in 1901, at age ~85.

Ellen Edwardson1

F, #5508, Deceased, b. 6 June 1836, d. 28 January 1908
ConsanguinityGreat-grandmother of Adrian John Snelson
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Parents

FatherThomas Edwardson (b. 3 August 1810, d. 27 April 1882)
MotherAnn Critchley (b. 14 November 1811, d. 18 January 1897)

Family: John Roby (b. about January 1836, d. 19 February 1895)

DaughterMary Ellen Roby (b. 1861)
SonJohn J Thomas Roby (b. 25 December 1864, d. 10 February 1875)
DaughterAnn Roby+ (b. 2 May 1866, d. about 1 June 1944)
SonWilliam Roby (b. 20 September 1868, d. 2 April 1911)
SonFred Forster Roby (b. 20 October 1870, d. 19 February 1895)
DaughterAlice Jane ("Jennie") Roby+ (b. 23 February 1873, d. 20 April 1951)
SonAlfred Herbert Roby, M M+ (b. 23 February 1873, d. 23 May 1955)
SonAlbert Ernest Roby+ (b. 14 August 1875, d. 8 May 1962)
DaughterEvelyn Beatrice Roby (b. 30 July 1879)
Person ReferencesAlice Lawton c1750 -
Ancestors Lifespan, Father, Mother, Spouse
Ellen Burtch
Ellen Woods c 1755 -
Family Tree Blood Line
George Critchley c1716 - 1756
Hannah Clitheroe c 1782 -
Margaret Wellesbey c1750 -
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Thomas Mollyneux
Last Edited 17 June 2025

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MarriageEllen Edwardson and John Roby were married ? AUG 1855 in Prescot Ref 8b 559 : This reference is probably incorrect as it leads to the marriage of an Ellen Edwardson in 1855, but not to John Roby. I am not sure where this old reference comes from.

I have not been able to find any evidence of a marriage between this John Roby and Ellen Edwardson.

The evidence is that the birth documentation and baptisms of their children say that the child's parents are John & Ellen Roby and that the mother's maiden name is Edwardson.
Also Known AsShe was also known as Ellen Roby.
NoteI am still struggling to find the marriage of John Roby and Ellen Edwardson.

Yes, there is plenty of information that an “Ellen” is the mother of most if not all of John Roby’s children and there is the support from the DNA evidence of the Critchley parents of Ellen. Yet, a marriage event still eludes me.

One angle not yet fully prosecuted is that of the Ebenezer Chapel -This is an Independent Church.

Any help here, will be much appreciated. BTW, I am aware of the evidence re Mary Ellen ROBY. born Prescot Q2 1861 Ref 8b 486.
User Reference NumberShe; 66
BirthShe was born on 6 June 1836 in Prescot, England.2,3
BaptismShe was baptised on 30 June 1836 in Ebenezer Chapel, New Road, Prescot, This is an Independent Church. The records read


First name(s) | Ellen
Father's first name(s) | Thomas
Last name | Edwardson
Father's last name | Edwardson
Sex | Female
Mother's first name(s) | Ann
Birth year | 1836
Mother's last name | Critchley
Baptism year | 1836
Record set | England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Baptism date | 30 Jun 1836
Category | Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place | Prescot
Subcategory | Parish Baptisms
County | Lancashire
Collections from | England, Great Britain.
ResidenceShe resided in New Road, Prescot, in 1851 and described herself as a watchmaker's daughter - she was only a watchmaker's daughter but she knew how to have a good time.4 OccupationShe was an Address: Dragon Turnpike Road, Whiston

Ellen is described on the night of the 1861 Census, as a married woman aged 24, occupation "house servant" in the home of Richard Dolke, watchmaker, and his wife Elizabeth Dolke. I believe at this time, she would be very pregnant with Mary Ellen Roby arriving before 30th June 1861. Notably, husband John Roby is still at the home of his mother Ann who has remarried, brother William Roby, half brother William Alfred Abbott - and step father John Abbott.

Interestingly, the record says that John Roby is "unmarried" - whereas across town, Ellen who is very pregnant calls herself Ellen Roby and it is recorded as "married".

I am beginning to wonder whether they were ever married., house servant (and was married) in Prescot, Lancashire, England, in 1861. Her daughter Mary Ellen Roby was born in 1861 in Prescot, Lancashire, England. Her son John J Thomas Roby was born on 25 December 1864 in Sutton, Lancashire, England. Her daughter Ann Roby was born on 2 May 1866 in Prescot, England. Her son William Roby was born on 20 September 1868 in Prescot, Lancashire, England. Her son Fred Forster Roby was born on 20 October 1870 in Prescot, England. Her daughter Alice Jane ("Jennie") Roby was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley. Her son Alfred Herbert Roby, M M, was born on 23 February 1873 in Carr Lane, Knowsley, Liverpool, England. Her son John J Thomas Roby died on 10 February 1875. Her son Albert Ernest Roby was born on 14 August 1875 in Prescot. Her daughter Evelyn Beatrice Roby was born on 30 July 1879 in Prescot. Her father Thomas Edwardson died on 27 April 1882 in Siddons Brow (Row), Eccleston, Prescot. Her son Fred Forster Roby died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England. Her husband John Roby died on 19 February 1895 in 72 Leopold Road, Liverpool, England. Her mother Ann Critchley died on 18 January 1897 in Alms Houses, Warrington Road, Whiston, Lancashire, England, England. ResidenceEllen Edwardson resided in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, before 1908.5,3 DeathShe died on 28 January 1908, at age 71, in 42 West Derby Street, Liverpool, England, The death certificate records that she was the wife of John Roby, a watchmaker journeyman. Present at her death was William Roby, 42 West Derby Street.6,3 BurialEllen's remains were buried on 1 February 1908 in West Derby Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire, Address: Section 7 Grave 407

aged 72.7

Census

Label and YearManual
Census 1841Ellen Edwardson Id #5,508 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1841 at New Road, Prescot; [[Witness Role: Daughter]]

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Census 1851Ellen Edwardson Id #5,508 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1851 at New Road, Prescot; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

Principal Role

[[Witness Role: Daughter]]

Original Documents, Source and Citations here8
Census 1871Ellen Edwardson Id #5,508 (Principal) was at home on Census night 2 April 1871 at Dogkennel House, Prescot; Principal Role
Witness Role: Head of Household

[[Witness Role: Wife]]

Original Documents, Source and Citations here9
Census 1881Ellen Edwardson Id #5,508 (Principal) was at home on Census night 3 April 1881 at Prescot, Lancashire; Address: 2 East View

[[Witness Role: Wife]]

Original Documents, Source and Citations here
Census 1891Ellen Edwardson Id #5,508 (Principal) was at home on Census night 5 April 1891 at Liverpool; Address: 72 Leopold Road, West Derby

[[Witness Role: Wife]]

Original Documents, Source and Citations here10
Census 1901Ellen Edwardson Id #5,508 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1901 at Liverpool; Address: 281 Upper Parliament Street

[[Principal Role]]
[[Witness Role: Head of household]]

Original Documents, Source and Citations here

Citations

  1. [S280] Birth Certificate of Alfred Herbert Roby ( 1873 )
  2. [S1604] David Pitt's Tree
  3. [S1459] GRO Online Digitised (DR) Deaths, West Derby, Lancashire, England. Jan-Mar 1908. ROBY, Ellen. 08B/458. https://www.gro.gov.uk/ : accessed 03 Mar 2025.
  4. [S1014] Census 1851 Prescott
  5. [S293] Burial Authority for Ellen Roby ( Nee Edwardson ) 1908
  6. [S398] Death Certificate of Ellen Roby 1908
  7. [S2] Letter
  8. [S1095] Census 1851 Lancashire Thomas Edwardson a.40
  9. [S1399] Census 1871 Lancashire John Roby a 35
  10. [S1416] Census 1891 West Derby, Liverpool RG12

Frank Benyon

M, #5511, Deceased, b. about 1894, d. after 1944
Consanguinity1st cousin 2 times removed of Adrian John Snelson
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Parents

FatherJohn Benyon (b. about May 1851, d. October 1909)
MotherAlice Dryland (b. 1856)
Person ReferencesAnne Jones
George Benyon 1783-1850

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User Reference NumberFrank Benyon; 16612
BirthHe was born about 1894.
His father John Benyon died in October 1909.
DeathFrank Benyon died after 1944.

Josiah Simpson

M, #5517, Deceased, b. about 1833
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Parents

FatherSimpson

Family:

SonEdwin Simpson+ (b. 20 May 1863, d. 5 January 1940)
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OccupationJosiah Simpson was a wheelwright.
User Reference NumberHe; 24245
BirthHe was born about 1833 in Freiston Shore, Lincolnshire.
His son Edwin Simpson was born on 20 May 1863 in Lincoln, England.

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Label and YearManual
Census 1911Josiah Simpson Id #5,517 (Principal) was at home on Census night 1911 at 22 Bowbridge Road; Address: Newark

Witness Role: father

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Lady Unknown of Trumpington

F, #5523, Deceased
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Family: Sir Edward (Philip ?) Bostock (b. 1260)

SonRalph Bostock+
SonSir William Bostock
SonSir Adam Bostock+ (b. about 1275, d. 1350)

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Also Known AsLady Unknown of Trumpington was also known as Unknown of Bostock.
MarriageLady Unknown of Trumpington and Sir Edward (Philip ?) Bostock were married in an unknown place.
User Reference NumberShe; 8382
Her son Sir Adam Bostock was born about 1275.

Ermengarde Unknown1,2

F, #5525, Deceased, d. 1147
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Parents

FatherFulk IV Le Rechin Unknown (b. 1043, d. 14 April 1109)
MotherHildegarde Unknown

Family: William IX The Troubador Unknown (b. 1071, d. 1126)

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Also Known AsErmengarde Unknown was also known as Ermengarde Unknown.
BirthShe was born 3rd cousins 1 removed, Y.1
ResidenceShe resided See notes.1
User Reference NumberShe; 18967
NoteEvent Memos from GEDCOM Import...

Residence
Ermengarde of Anjou, daughter of Count Fulk IV of Anjou and Hildegarde de Beaugency, was successively Duchess of Aquitaine, Brittany, and the patron of Fontevraud Abbey. She was born in Angers.

Having lost her mother at a young age, she received a good education and grew to be pious and concerned about religious reform, especially the struggle against the secular appropriation of church property. She was also noted for her beauty in her youth.

Her first wedding, in 1089, was to the young duke and poet, William IX of Aquitaine. However, the marriage proved a dismal failure. Her husband was a voracious philanderer, whose affairs infuriated his wife. She suffered from severe mood-swings, vacillating between vivacity and sullenness, and would nag her husband. She also had a habit of retiring in bad temper to a cloister after an argument, cutting off all contact with the outside world, before suddenly making a reappearance in the court as if her absence had never occurred. Such behaviour, coupled with her failure to conceive a child, led William to send her back to her father and have the marriage dissolved (in 1091). Her behaviour during her marriage to the Duke has been described by both Marion Meade and Alison Weir as schizophrenic, with Weir adding a suggestion of manic depression.

In 1093, her father married her to Duke Alan IV of Brittany, probably to secure an alliance against Normandy, now controlled by William the Conqueror’s son, Robert Curthose. Her husband left for Palestine in 1096 to take part in the First Crusade and she assumed control of the Duchy from then until 1101.

She spent little time in Rennes or the west of Brittany, preferring Nantes and the Saumur region. Influenced by Robert of Arbrissel, she approved the expansion of the abbey at Fontevraud, to which she withdrew on two occasions. An admirer of Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (to whose abbey she made donations), she favoured the creation of Cistercian abbeys. She was also a benefactress of the monastery of Buzay, near Nantes.

By 1116, Ermengarde was living in Fontevrault Abbey, where she reputedly became a friend of her first husband's second wife, Duchess Philippa of Aquitaine.

In 1118, after the death of Philippa, Ermengarde decided to avenge her deceased friend. She went south from Fontevrault to the court of her former husband, Duke William of Aquitaine, where she demanded to be recognised as the rightful Duchess. William ignored this remarkable request. Accordingly, in October 1119, she suddenly appeared at the Council of Reims, being held by Pope Calixtus II, demanding that the Pope excommunicate William, oust his mistress from the ducal palace, and restore Ermengarde to her rightful place as the Duchess of Aquitaine. The Pope 'declined to accommodate her'; however, Ermengarde continued to trouble William for several years afterwards.

Ermengarde at one point went on Crusade to Palestine; she returned ten years later, and some historians believe her life ended in Jerusalem at the convent of Saint Anne. But obituary lists at the abbey of Saint-Saveur de Redon record a date of death in 1147 in Redon where her husband was buried. Certainly, it is believed that she died a nun.
BirthShe was born in 1068.1
MarriageErmengarde Unknown and William IX The Troubador Unknown were married in 1089.2,1
Her father Fulk IV Le Rechin Unknown died on 14 April 1109.
Her husband William IX The Troubador Unknown died in 1126.
DeathShe died in 1147.2,1

Citations

  1. [S1016] According to Otto Hirzell
  2. [S1025] Bostock Family History