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Herbert II Unknown1,2

M, #7754, Deceased, b. 884, d. 23 February 943
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Parents

FatherHerbert I Unknown (b. 850, d. 907)

Family: (Hildebranda) Adela Unknown (b. 895, d. 931)

SonHerbert de Vermandois (d. about 983)
DaughterAdela Unknown+ (b. 910, d. 960)
DaughterLuitgarde Unknown+ (b. about 914, d. 9 February 978)
SonAlbert I Unknown+ (b. about 916, d. 8 September 987)
SonRobert Unknown+ (b. 918, d. 19 August 967)

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BurialHerbert II's remains were buried in Saint Quentin.1
ResidenceHe resided See notes.1
User Reference NumberHe; 18643
NoteEvent Memos from GEDCOM Import...

Residence
Herbert II (884 - 23 February 943), Count of Vermandois and Count of Troyes, was the son of Herbert I of Vermandois and thus a fifth generation descendant of Charlemagne.

He inherited the domain of his father and in 907, added to it the Saint de Soissons abbey. His marriage with Hildebrante of France (also known as Liégarde or Adèle) brought him the County of Meaux. In 918 , he was also named Count of Mézerais and of the Véxin. With his cousin Bernard, Count of Beauvais, he consituted a powerful group in the west of France, to the north and east of Paris. In 923, he imprisoned King Charles III in Chateau-Thierry, then in Péronne.

In 922, the Archbishop of Rheims, Seulf, called on Herbert II to reduce some of his vassals who were in rebellion against him. On the death of Seulf, in 925, with the help of King Rudolph, he acquired for his second son Hugh (then five years old) the archbishopric of Rheims, which had a large inheritance in France and Germany. In 926, on the death of Count Roger of Laon, Herbert demanded this County for Eudes, his eldest son. He settled there, initially against the will of King Rudolph and constructed a fortress there. Rudolph yielded to pressure to free king Charles III, whom Herbert still held in prison. In 930, Herbert took the castle of Vitry in Perthois at the expense of Boso, the brother of King Rudolph. Rudolph united his army with the army of Hugh, marquis of Neustria, and in 931, they entered Rheims and defeated Hugh, the son of Herbert. Artaud became the new archbishop of Reims. Herbert II then lost, in three years, Vitry, Laon, Chateau-Thierry, and Soissons. The intervention of his ally, Henry the Fowler, allowed him to restore his domains (except Rheims and Laon) in exchange for his submission to King Rudolph.

Later Herbert allied with Hugh the Great and William Longsword, duke of Normandy against King Louis IV, who allocated the County of Laon to Roger II, the son of Roger I, in 941. Herbert and Hugh the Great took back Rheims and captured Artaud. Hugh, the son of Herbert, was restored as archbishop. Again the mediation of the German King Otto I in Visé, near Liège allowed for the normalization of the situation.

Herbert II died on 23 February 943 without having succeeded in building the principality of which he dreamed. His succession was reconciled by Hugh the Great, maternal uncle of his children. It took place in 946 and led to an equitable distribution between the sons of Herbert II: Herbert III, Robert, Albert, and Hugh (his other son Eudes died before 946). As for his girls, Adela was married to Arnulf I, count of Flanders, Luitgarde (widow of William Longsword) was married to Theobald I, count of Blois, the first lieutenant of Hugh. She brought to Theobald Provins and domains in the Mézerais.

He was first married to Adela, and then to Hildebrante of France (895), daughter of Robert I of France .

With Adela, he had 7 children:
* Adele of Vermandois (910 -960), married 934 Count Arnulf I of Flanders, also a descendant of Charlemagne
* Eudes of Vermandois, Count of Amiens and of Vienne, (910-946)
* Herbert 'the Elder', Count of Meaux and of Troyes (-993)
* Robert of Vermandois, Count of Meaux and Chalons (-968)
* Adalbert I, Count of Vermandois (915-987), married Gerberga of Lorraine, also a descendant of Charlemagne
* Luitgarde of Vermandois(ca 920-978), married 943 Theobald I of Blois
* Hugh of Vermandois, Archbishop of Reims.
BirthHe was born in 884.3,1
MarriageHerbert II Unknown and (Hildebranda) Adela Unknown were married in 895.2,1
His father Herbert I Unknown died in 907.
His daughter Adela Unknown was born in 910.
His daughter Luitgarde Unknown was born about 914 in Vermandois, Normandy, France.
His son Albert I Unknown was born about 916.
His son Robert Unknown was born in 918.
His wife (Hildebranda) Adela Unknown died in 931.
DeathHerbert II Unknown died on 23 February 943, at age ~59.3,1

Citations

  1. [S1016] According to Otto Hirzell
  2. [S1017] Ancestors of Henry II
  3. [S1025] Bostock Family History

John Croagh Crowe

M, #7755, Deceased, b. 3 September 1858, d. 1924
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Parents

FatherTimothy Crowe (b. about 1810)
MotherMary Tierney (b. about 1830)

Family: Honorah O'Leary (b. 16 June 1871, d. 31 March 1953)

DaughterJohanna Crowe
SonTimothy Crowe+ (b. about 1893, d. 1929)
DaughterMary Crowe (b. about 1895)
SonMichael Crowe (b. about 1897)
SonJohn Crowe (b. 1898)
SonPatrick Crowe (b. about 1899)

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MarriageJohn Croagh Crowe and Honorah O'Leary were married.
User Reference NumberHe; 23771
BirthHe was born on 3 September 1858 in Clonoulty-on-Suir, Co. Tipperary.
His son Timothy Crowe was born about 1893 in Ballybrack, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland.
His daughter Mary Crowe was born about 1895.
His son Michael Crowe was born about 1897.
His son John Crowe was born in 1898.
His son Patrick Crowe was born about 1899.
DeathJohn Croagh Crowe died in 1924, at age ~66.
His wife Honorah O'Leary died on 31 March 1953 in Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland.

Edward De Crewe1

M, #7763, Deceased
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Family:

DaughterAlice De Crewe+

Main Events

BirthEdward De Crewe was born Person Source, Y.2
MarriageEdward De Crewe was married.1
DeathHe died Y Y, Y.1
User Reference NumberHe; 18516

Citations

  1. [S1016] According to Otto Hirzell
  2. [S1020] Darrin Lythgoe's Genealogy

Raina Quatermass

F, #7764, Deceased, b. 1885, d. 1971
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Parents

FatherDai Evan Quatermass (b. 1860, d. 1899)
MotherBronwen Leek (b. 1861, d. 1913)

Family: Frederico Nerco (b. 1881, d. 1951)

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MarriageRaina Quatermass and Frederico Nerco were married.
User Reference NumberShe; 23643
_STATShe; Frederico Nerco; Unmarried Couple
NoteRaina ran away - so they only had a short fling.
BirthShe was born in 1885.
Her father Dai Evan Quatermass died in 1899 in Bangor, Wales.
Her mother Bronwen Leek died in 1913 in Llamgollen.
Her husband Frederico Nerco died in 1951.
DeathRaina Quatermass died in 1971, at age ~86.

Ellen Woods

F, #7772, Deceased, b. about 1755, d. 1789
Consanguinity4th great-grandmother of Adrian John Snelson
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Family: Henry Edwardson (b. about 1755, d. 1794)

SonWilliam Edwardson+ (b. about 1782, d. 11 May 1835)
DaughterMary Edwardson (b. about 1784)
DaughterMargaret Edwardson (b. about 1785)
SonThomas Edwardson (b. about 1787)
Person ReferencesAncestors Lifespan, Father, Mother, Spouse
Ellen Woods c 1755 -
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Also Known AsEllen Woods was also known as Ellen Edwardson.
MarriageEllen Woods and Henry Edwardson were married.
User Reference NumberShe; 18350
BirthShe was born about 1755.
Her son William Edwardson was born about 1782 in Farnworth, Prescot.
Her daughter Mary Edwardson was born about 1784.
Her daughter Margaret Edwardson was born about 1785.
Her son Thomas Edwardson was born about 1787.
DeathEllen Woods died in 1789, at age ~34.
Her husband Henry Edwardson died in 1794.