From: Lorraine Butler <lorraine.butler@yahoo.com>
Date: September 21, 2011 9:28:10 PM EDT
To: Jon Avery <jeavery@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: would like to communicate with you regarding Elijah Hanson / Hinson Rev War vet ancestor.
Reply-To: Lorraine Butler <lorraine.butler@yahoo.com>

I need to compare all this with what I have.
 
You will probably want to print this out to read it, it is long and jumps around some..................
  
I have a copy of the aged /infirm George Hinson court thing somewhere, but I thought it was another George Hanson (? abt1650-1727) who apparently did not have a son Elijah.  Do you believe it is our 1755-1802 Elijah's dad?  I would be very interested in the info you have on George Hanson & Margaret Mozingo.   I believe I have seen reference to a court paper accusing them of living together when she was still married to someone else?  Not sure where I saw that.  I am in the process of changing how I file stuff, so once I get everything in it's new place I might find that again.
 
I would also be interested in any info you have on the name "change" from Hinson to Hanson.
 
Have you seen the book "Our Hansons, Hinsons & Hensons" published by William Ashley Hinson in 1996?  There are several Georges in his book, both in VA & NC, but none that look to have a son Elijah or that was married to Mozingo (one had wife Margaret ? Burchell, then married Sullivan - I think I saw an old post where you were trying to track that one?)   His book also has another Rev War Elijah Hanson (born October 1, 1761 - died 1853 in NC, was married to Fanny in August 1803).   It is hard to sort them all out.......I thought that was where I saw the aged/infirm court reference but can't put my hands on it right now.  The author William Hinson was researching to prove lineage from Elijah Hanson Rev War for SAR, but apparently his ancestor is the 1761-1853 Elijah, where ours was the 1755-1803 Elijah.   My  local Mormon family library got a copy of his book for me.  I am still weeding through that.  Problem is it is on microfilm and it takes several minutes per page to copy to thumb drive so I can bring it home to study, so I don't have that much of it yet.  The family center is only open twice  a week for 2-3 hours & I can't always get there because of my work schedule.
 
I saw where you had noted you had decided that Manoah's mother was actually Susannah Scrivens, not the "Phebe" that is referenced in the Quaker genealogy.  (Vol IV Concord MM page 146).  Did you actually look at original Quaker records to rule that out?   It was the only place I saw her, and DAR has Susannah as his mom.  I plan to run my first DAR supplemental lineage back to Elijah, so I have been looking at what they have accepted on him.
 
Do you have any information on where our Elijah might be buried, or anything on Susannah's parents? Any reference I am finding says her parents were Patience Pike & Isaac Scrivens.  Patience is on One World Tree (an obviously defective source that I only consider as suggestions of what might really be until proven otherwise) with a lot of Pike backline, but with little on Isaac Scrivens.  Most of the source trees seem to go back through the Dawson son, and have little if any references attached.  I gather Isaac must have died well before 1790, as it looks like she was already married to Dawson & widowed again by the time that first census was done, because of her being listed as head of household in that record and under the name Dawson.  One World Tree does trace the Pikes very far back, though, so it would be nice if it could all be proven.
 
On Rachel Hanson.  She is Manoah's daughter with his wife Rachel Stubbs.  Manoah's brother Elijah married Rachel's sister Eliza Stubbs.  The Stubbs girls, with parents Joseph & Zilpa Stubbs, moved to Ohio from GA.   As best as I have been able to tell, Manoah was married to Rachel in the Stillwater MM in 1807. 
 
Their daughter Rachel would be your wife's ancestor Iddo's sister, then. 
 
Rachel Hanson married Edwin Morris 28 May 1844.  From what I have found so far, they had at least 8 children: 
	•	Mordica (my ancestor) was born 22 March 1845 in Marion Ohio, and died October 12, 1929.  He married Harriet Lewis, daughter of David and Phoebe Ann Metcalf Lewis.
	•	Charles & Silas S Morris (twins) born in 1846
	•	Louisa Morris born May 1850
	•	Alice Morris born about 1853
	•	John Morris born about 1854
	•	Campcidel Morris (variations of this name found) born about 1856
	•	Susannah Morris born about 1860
I actually wrote an article on Mordica & Hattie's family & will attach that.
Their eldest son Arizona is my great grandfather.  
 
Arizona married Bessie Harris in 1894 & they had 6 children.   She died when she was just 31 years old, of complications of measles & pneumonia in 1909.  I have posted bio's on them and most of my direct line down through my parents on findagrave.com.  You can look at any of those on my user profile, which is Lorraine Elwonger Butler.  My ancestry tree is private, because I use it for searching and sometimes have unproven stuff in the tree with TENTATIVE warning notes.  It was public, but I but found people were absorbing my data and deleting the tentative warning, further skewing ancestry.com info so I made it private.  A surprising benefit of that is now people have to contact me if they want info from my tree and I have actually met some distant cousins as a result.

Do you have a definite date on when Susannah moved to Belmont with the kids?  Contentnea gave her a certificate to Belmont County on  March 9 1805.  I believe she may have received a land grant under Elijah's Rev War service for her property in Ohio but have not got in to deeds searching yet.  Anything you have on that would be appreciated.  Also, could you send me copies of any military records you have for Elijah?
 
So far most of my info comes from Hinson Encyclopedia and a book on the Stanton family that was written by a stepson of Elijah & Eilza's daughter Deborah. 
 
This book is online at http://www.archive.org/details/bookcalledouranc00stan  There is a nice section written by Deborah about her family growing up, including references to Elijah & Susannah, which starts on page 289.  Mostly it is stuff about Elijah & Elizah, but it is first hand memories, including photos of "artifacts" from that era and family, and it gives us a good idea of how Manoah and Rachel would have also lived,  There is even a copy of Elijah's discharge from Captain Bradleys Company in NC on page 295  (I am attaching that for you as well)  at http://www.archive.org/stream/bookcalledouranc00stan#page/n331/mode/2up

Anyway, that is more than I had intended to write, hopefully it is not too confusing!
 
I would appreciate any specifics you have on NC (particularly Wayne County) based family info.  I am going to try to find as much as I can while I am in NC.  It would help to have specific things that I am searching for. 
 
The frustrating thing is that I used to LIVE in Havelock for 20+ years, and all that time less than 90 minutes away from "Contentnea" with no clue as to the significance.   And probably closer to some of the other hot spots in our family history.  What a waste.  I wish I had started seriously looking at the genealogy years earlier, but isn't that what we all say?

 
   
Lorraine Butler 
 
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From: Jon Avery <jeavery@vt.edu>
To: Lorraine Butler <lorraine.butler@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: would like to communicate with you regarding Elijah Hanson / Hinson Rev War vet ancestor.

Hi Lorraine,

I'm back from my vacation and I'd welcome the opportunity to work with you.  Yes I'm still actively searching this Hanson/Hinson line.

My wife and her brother trace back to Elijah Hinson, the Rev. War Veteran.  I've managed to document fairly well their line from:

Elijah HINSON (circa 1755- 3 Feb 1802) m. bef Aug 1876 Susannah SCRIVEN (23 Feb 1760-15 May 1826)  I have a copy of his Rev. War discharge papers.
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Manoah HINSON (circa 1873-21 Nov 1858) m. 30 Dec 1807 Rachael STUBBS (29 Dec 1785-17 Apr 1847)
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Iddo HANSON (8 Jan 1813-20 Nov 1858) m. 14 Apr 1836 Mary Ann SMITH (9 Nov 1819-19 Feb 1907)
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Edward Iddo HANSON (19 Sep 1858-21 Jul 1921) m. 6 Mar 1888 Anna Kathreiel(sp?) DISTLER ( 1866-1954)
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Alfonso Barnard (Bernardo) HANSON (12 Feb 1889-May 1966) m. 22 Nov 1911 Estella Elizabeth BULES (13 Jan 1890-Apr 1975)
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Harold Edward HANSON (19 Apr 1917-9 Aug 1995) m. 11 Jan 1941 Elizabeth Ann (Betsy) Eileen MANEILLY (8 Sep 1918-14 Jan 2004)
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Cheryl (my wife) and Bruce HANSON

My current focus and challenge is to try to prove the parents of Elijah HINSON (1755-1802).  I have the handwritten Hanson Family History which says that Elijahs's parents were George HINSON and Margaret MOZINGO of Virginia but I consider that a claim, not proof.  See:

http://sites.google.com/site/hxnsxn/

Cheryl's brother, Bruce, has had his DNA tested which means that we have the Y-DNA of Elijah HINSON and the DNA of Elijah's father.  So I'm trying to use DNA to push the ancestry further back.

I live in Pottstown, PA, about an hour north of Philadelphia.

I envy you the opportunity to spend the time in NC next month.  I would be especially interested if you find anything supporting or disproving the parentage of Elijah (1755-1802) as George HINSON and Margaret MOZINGO.

We do have some fairly good information about George HINSON and Margaret MOZINGO in Washington Parish and Westmoreland Co., Virginia in the 1741 timeframe.  We also know that "a" George HINSON was identified in Dobbs Co., NC Inferior Court Records of Oct 1772 as "George Hinson, a very poor aged infirm man, be exempted from paying Public Taxes & doing Public Duties".

I also believe (but haven't proven), based on the handwritten Hanson Family History mentioned above, that George HINSON and Margaret MOZINGO had 8 sons: James, Moses, Jesse, Joseph, perhaps Aaron, Elijah (our Elijah), Jeremiah, and William.  If you come across information linking these men together as siblings, that would be important also.  I do know that James HINSON  was deeded land from Elizabeth MOZINGO in 1767 adjacent to land owned by John MOZINGO.

Incidentally, I do not have very much information about your line Rachael Hanson m. 28 May 1844 Edwin or Mordecai MORRIS.  I'd very much like to use your information to fill in this line.  Rachael moved from Wayne Co., NC to Belmont Co. OH in 1805 with her parents didn't she?

I hope to hear back from you soon - Jon Avery

On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Lorraine Butler wrote:

>  Hi Jon,
> I am finding your name everytime I turn around in trying to research my ancestors Morris's/Hanson/Pike and etc.
> Are you still actively researching?  I am finding pretty consistent info the farther back I go (well, to a point), but very little supporting documentation & I was hoping I might be able to compare notes?
> Thanks.
> Lorraine
>  
> Lorraine Butler 
>  
> 607-733-5501  
> www.usedcheerleadinguniforms.com
>  
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